Comments on "Don't yuck my yum: it's all I've got" - Faerye Net 2016-07-11T14:48:58+00:00 2016-07-11T14:48:58+00:00 2016-07-11T14:48:58+00:00 <p>I totally agree with you! Let the kids eat</p> Lily 2013-07-31T07:24:27+00:00 2013-07-31T07:24:27+00:00 <p>I have this problem all the time! I love movies and TV shows, and I have gotten very good at connecting with “my” characters, and imbuing them with all the emotional meat they may be lacking in reality. As a result, when people try to point out flaws in those characters or stories I become very defensive. I try not to take those sorts of things personally, but it can be difficult to break away from something you’ve invested so much emotional energy on.</p> <p>Fortunately I know a wide enough swath of film/tv appreciators to find kindred spirits. But I do have a tendency to spend a lot of time with folks who are either extremely picky, or, well… just plain pretentious. Which is fine really, and I enjoy our discussions, but I find it hard sometimes not to feel hurt, or even stupid, for liking the things that I do. Even though I know that was never my fellow viewer’s intention…</p> <p>*I agree. Those “standard dismissals” as you put it, are incredibly aggravating! And, unfortunately, sometimes justified, when it comes our culture’s lack of solid, ready-made heroines… : \</p> Sara McCormick 2013-07-25T06:02:10+00:00 2013-07-25T06:02:10+00:00 <p>I agree that the role as written is nearly gender neutral. But I think Weaver made more of the character than could any male actor I can imagine in the role. Maybe it’s just that Ripley can’t survive by smashing the enemy with his/her fists, but wins by keeping his/her head under incredible pressure — a male gives up half his arsenal if he can’t confront the baddie head on — and thus I just can’t see a male action movie actor in the role.</p> David Shoulders 2013-07-24T23:01:14+00:00 2013-07-24T23:01:14+00:00 <p>Hey Dad!</p> <p>Well, yes. There are lots of other female characters I love besides Princess Leia. Although there’s no way you would have let me watch <em>Alien</em> at the age I watched <em>Star Wars</em>, and more power to you on that!</p> <p>But the Smurfette Principle observes that most movies with groups of heroes/characters have only one girl (and that often she’s a romantic interest for the hero or defined largely by her Girlness.) If a kid loves the (movie) Avengers and loves Black Widow, tearing down Black Widow for her just means “hey kid, you should have <em>no hero</em> to identify with in this story.” It isn’t that she wouldn’t still have other characters to love from other media — it’s that her entry point and identification character for that particular story has been trashed and humiliated.</p> <p>Sidebar on Ripley: I’ve read that the <em>Alien</em> script was written gender-neutrally, which does explain the (refreshing!) lack of emphasis on gender in the movie (although I’d say there are some directorial gestures about gender here and there.) I have also heard Ripley dismissed, therefore, as a “man with boobs” character, which is one of my perennial least-favorite dismissals of a female character*. Activities culturally tagged as masculine are not off-limits to women. Women do all sorts of jobs. Women have all sorts of personalities. Seeming real and human (which is sometimes incompatible with poorly-imagined displays of over-the-top femininity) is way more important to me as a viewer/fan than engaging gender directly.</p> <p>*The fact that there are a bunch of standard dismissals of female characters, which I’ve heard many times, is part of the problem, I think!</p> Felicity 2013-07-24T22:14:35+00:00 2013-07-24T22:14:35+00:00 <p>Ripley? (Yes, I know there are fans and anti-fans of the movies, and the quality of the writing is uneven. But looking just at the Ripley character — she’s smart, gutsy, resourceful, indomitable, and good-looking (parenthetically). On the other hand, I must admit that her gender seldom matters to the story, except as subtext in her problems with authority figures.)</p> David Shoulders